Listen to this lively and intimate conversation between good friends Shelley Penn and Amy Muir as they reflect on shifting careers and reorientations, professional commitments and contributions.
Our conversationalists for this episode are Shelley Penn and Amy Muir. Shelley is a strategic advisor to government and private sectors, Amy is Director of MUIR. Both are highly regarded architects, advocates and serious strategic thinkers with a strong commitment to the public realm.
This conversation from 2017 addresses these commitments and the importance of communicating the public value of design, along with career transitions and pathways. But it begins with a light-hearted and entertaining chat that captures the character of these two wonderful women as they discuss coffee choices, eggs, backbeach or front, and fashion choices at university.
What really matters? What do you bring? And, ultimately, what is your agenda? We hope you enjoy listening in on their reflections.
This episode was recorded live on Wurundjeri Country at Testing Grounds Melbourne in Autumn 2017. It was convened by Justine Clark as part of Melbourne Design Week. Photos: Tobias Titz.
