Listen to this spirited conversation between Deb Aukland and Marie Glezos, as they discuss their shared passion for working in social infrastructure and seeing architecture as a service to communities.

Our conversationalists for this episode are Marie Glezos, a Senior Architect at SMFA; and Deb Auckland, who at the time of the recording was an architect and senior advisor at the Department of Education South Australia.

Marie’s focus on giving back is drawn from her strong community-based upbringing, with her migrant grandparents sharing a commitment to help others with whatever they might need. Deb highlights the importance of incorporating first-hand perspectives when designing for schools and other community infrastructure. She prioritises educating the public about spatial literacy and the power they have to manipulate space to make that environment better.

Other topics of conversation include community housing, volunteer work, the power of welcoming community spaces, women in leadership, and what brings joy outside work.

Also see Marie Glezos’s Letter to my Younger Self – What makes a ‘good architect’?

This episode of Parlour POD was produced with the assistance of the Alastair Swayn Foundation through a Design Audio Grant. Thanks!


This episode was recorded live on Kaurna Country at the 2022 Adelaide Spring Salon. Held at Brickworks Design Studio on 27 October 2022, the Salon was organised by Alison McFadyen. Photos: Ben Liew.