Enjoy this boisterous conversation between Sophie Cleland and Tania Davidge, filled with verve and attitude and humour. This is a great chat about politics and public space between good friends who don’t suffer fools!

Our speakers for this episode are Sophie Cleland and Tania Davidge. Sophie is a director at Architectus and Tania is now the CEO of Open House Melbourne. Kind, generous and very funny, they share a strong commitment to community, public good and public space, and a deep interest in politics.

Tor me, public space is what enables us all to feel like we’re a part of something that’s bigger than ourselves, to feel a part of this society, like we’re making this society together.

Tania Davidge

This is a hilarious conversation filled with laughter. Tania and Sophie rewrote the brief for Salon asking the audience to direct their conversation in a ‘choose your own adventure’ escapade. The winning topics were ‘boiling frogs’ and ‘turtles all the way down’.  Listen on to find out what on earth that all means! 

This session is also available as a video – with an introduction by Alison Cleary.

This episode of Parlour POD was produced with the assistance of the Alastair Swayn Foundation through a Design Audio Grant. Thanks!


This episode was recorded live on Wurundjeri Country at the 2022 Melbourne Autumn Salon. Held at Brickworks on 6 April 2022, the Salon was convened by Justine Clark. Photos: Alex Salem.